[REL] The Trouble with Being Born (2019/2020)

[ghost]

Unfortunately the picture quality is pretty bad in the dark parts of the movie

I'll try to catch it here in 2 days: https://watch.eventive.org/dff/play/5f6 ... 00afeb3258

[charn]

Unfortunately the picture quality is pretty bad in the dark parts of the movie

I'll try to catch it here in 2 days: https://watch.eventive.org/dff/play/5f6 ... 00afeb3258

Yeah, the banding was in the source.

SWIM actually capped losslessly to (afterward) encode @ 17 with -tune grain. So what you see is basically exactly what that [3rd-world country ] festival streamed. And their 3.8 Mbps should've covered those light levels.

But after seeing 2 huge Fatima (2020) rips that were absolute garbage in the dark, I wondered if it's ever filming/post-production incompetence. (Does that happen? )

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i could help w scanning for a freebie home/mobile IP in CO in your 48h window if you wanted, but I'm sure you have your own methods..

[ghost]

But after seeing 2 huge Fatima (2020) rips that were absolute garbage in the dark, I wondered if it's ever filming/post-production incompetence.

Yes, I saw that mess The copy I am sharing here, has no banding.

i could help w scanning for a freebie home/mobile IP in CO in your 48h window if you wanted

I am pretty sure that I can find a working proxy IP located in CO, but I would also be thankful for your help

[ghost]

I found it here: https://se.biff.no/film/the-trouble-with-being-born/

Better picture quality and even in 1440p

The English subtitles are hardcoded.

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[Nasuada]

I watched the film a few weeks ago and I have to admit that I don't understand what the film really says at the end.
I also understand even less the controversial discussions about this film, because there is not much to see that has to do with an unusual love for the child.

[Phuzzy4242]

I watched the film a few weeks ago and I have to admit that I don't understand what the film really says at the end.
I also understand even less the controversial discussions about this film, because there is not much to see that has to do with an unusual love for the child.

The entire first half of the movie depicts the man's 'relationship' with what is essentially a sex doll in the form of a child, and indeed there were several scenes where it was obvious they 'spent the night' together. One scene even showed him removing that component so he could wash it out. I don't know how it could be more controversial unless it showed the actual act. The scene in the pool where she's nude and he speaks with her while holding her is another example.

The filmmaker went to great lengths not to reveal the child's identity because of the potential harm acting in the film could lead to in real life - the name in the credits is not her real name and she wore a prosthesis so her true face isn't revealed. Child sex dolls are already available in Japan, though of course not as sophisticated. They are banned in many countries, including the U.S., because of CP laws that say even pornographic drawings of children, not just photographs or films, are CP. Whether you agree or not, the law in most countries says sex with children is abhorrent, even in simulation.

[Tiny Blondie]

"I have to admit that I don't understand what the film really says at the end."

Me too, don't get the message the guy tried to give, if there is any. The controversy is easy to understand, but as for the meaning of the film, that's another story.

[bandersnatch]

I found this criticism and think it's the best try to understand the film. It's a google translation and I really have no idea if how good it is. Hope the text isn't too long but i think many people are fascinated from this film but also a little helpless like me.


The film starts review for The Trouble With Being Born
Film starts
Criticism from the FILMSTARTS editorial team
Even decades of science fiction literature and cinema couldn't answer the question of whether Androids now dream of electric sheep or not. But Sandra Wollner's “ The Trouble With Being Born ”now gives us at least an idea of what it looks like in their nightmares could. The dark drama, enriched with set pieces from horror and sci­fi, looks like one warning message from an incorrectly programmed simulation world, like a further thought and therefore a more profound version of Steven Spielberg's " AI ­ Artificial Intelligence ". Flickering electrical, disturbing. A scatter signal, not that easy to decipher. With her second feature film the Austrian director finds a new framework for topics that were already in her strong debut " The impossible picture " is to be heard: seeing and making visible. Secrets and memories The repressed and lost, difficult family stories.
Elli ( Lena Watson ) calls Georg ( Dominik Warta ) her father, but actually she is just a sex robot with his daughter's memories. They live through warm summer days, they swim and sunbathe themselves. He sleeps with her. Whether he has already done the same with his daughter, or
whether the abstraction of the Androids allow that is not clear. The real old Elli has disappeared, possibly dead. And that too new daughter invisible forces and voices pull away from Georg, into the darkness of the forest. you will soon find out more about who she is ­ and who she could be ...
Elli is a daughter substitute and a sex robot in one. You can tell from Elli's face that something is wrong. It's just too smooth, like one human­sized doll. Freed from the small impurities and imperfections with which life draws people. The images around them are no different. The film starts with one
dreamy summer day of unreal beauty that one instinctively distrusts. Like Ellis flawless Face provokes scrutinizing glances at this idyll. The drama begins on the surface of perception ­ and then digs into black abysses. It quickly becomes clear that Georg does not only have Ellis present. Even their past can he determine by whispering moments of an alleged past life into her. The film adapts this idea of memory of: He too looks deformed and alienated, as if someone had in In retrospect, its structure changed. No event is stored in us like a film, we remember rather, of our last memory. A lot of silent mail in our head. There is never one classically coherent and clear narrative. The events are mixed up, storylines repeat themselves or get lost in nothing. An unruly film. Obviously, “The TroubleWith Being Born ”with its story is never just androids, but always people too. Not only Memories are instilled into machines, and the past is often not only one of them Construction. Just think of the war generation ­ you could hear the reports from grandparents and Great Grandparents Really Believe? Could you do it yourself? "Black Mirror" from the Alpine republic Identities are broken and mixed together. Because Elli can get new memories is she is also able to become another person. About halfway through the act, it turns to the little boy Emil. The new face is in the supermarket. Just like Elli, he's just that approximate reproduction of an existing human being. But the real Emil died decades ago in war. Now the android version is comforting his sister, who has long since retired. Of course, there are genre­specific questions in the room. What separates man and machine, what connects she, how much of it is imprint and experience? Man is just a collection of innate Patterns, is he programmed biochemically himself? Or is there more, a soul, a humane one Excess? “ Blade Runner ” sounds like Philip K. Dick in general. You think of "Black Mirror" too Austrian accent. To confuse and disturb only with a greater will. An irritation which mainly arises from the eccentric shape. This structure, which the viewer keeps coming back from simple recording of the plot pushes away, combined with subtle shocks and disgust. Deceptive summer romance.
Director Sandra Wollner explained in advance that the film was a kind of "anti­ Pinocchio ”. And in fact one can imagine that this thinking, feeling being would prefer one pure machine. Freed from all empathy and above all from the ability to relate to pain and grief feel. Especially in the representation of the assault on the child's body, the Film something unbearable. He is subtle enough to stand up to accusations such as blunt provocation or guard against voyeurism, but explicit enough to be really uncomfortable. Frightening is how the human becomes mechanical. Once Elli is crouching there, a piece of it is missing in her crotch outer shell. In the background we hear and see Georg doing something. Something human becomes decomposed, is reduced to its mechanical genitals. Body horror. At the moment of viewing, Wollner's film is a little confused and slips a little too smoothly on ours
attentive eyes. Too much is sought and too little is found. Arthousig in love with himself you stare into nothing, ask questions but give no answers. Half because you encourage thinking want. Half because you don't know the answers. Or doesn't want to commit. The result is a big memory puzzle that never wants to fit together completely. Only after a little distance does it sit down really together when “The Trouble With Being Born” is a bit behind. One thinksback to his pictures, to the oppressive mood and this strange, distant world in which we are somehow live too. A film as programmed, which also programs its viewer. It has to be being implanted with a memory that doesn't belong to us but that soon feels like it. So like this movie.
Conclusion: Thoughtful and melancholy arthouse sci­fi cinema. An impressive second work,
which is still missing the finishing touches and the last bit of determination in places.
We saw “The Trouble With Being Born” at the Berlinale, where he was in the Encounters was shown.

http://www.filmstarts.de/kritiken/267708/kritik.html

[Tiny Blondie]

Thanks bandersnatch, will read it.

[Sully23]

This review unites the 2 ideas I had at the beginning
1 When I did not know that Elli was a machine; because you could see that Georg looked like he wanted her even suspected that he had 'encounters' off screen that was in my preliminary conclusion.
2 When I find out that Elli is an android; I thought and I took away those ideas from the beginning and I like a relationship of father and daughter, unlike the android of WestWorld a player can be Evan Rachel Wood's boyfriend, I am still far from believing if androids could be designed for sexual purposes, something I respected or thought Georg doesn't do with Elli.